Keep Our Animals Safe

$1,370 of $75k goal

Raised by 29 people in 18 months
Amy Karasz  PALMYRA, VA
On September 15, 2015,  we were warned by an animal control officer that although we have broken no laws and are not in violation of any codes or ordinances, one of our neighbors  has threatened to shoot our dogs.   We have 4 Maremma sheepdogs who have the job of keeping our sheep, goats, and chickens safe. In fact, we are required by the state to have such  protections in place for livestock. They work on instinct, and that instinct is to patrol and chase. Unfortunately, every method of containing them to the pasture has failed, because they are determined to do their jobs and chase away threats to their flock.  They end up crossing through neighboring properties while chasing off coyotes, foxes, and other wild animals, and this is where the situation has become dire. 
We need our dogs to protect our flock. More than that, we love our dogs. They are outgoing, friendly, sweet animals, and they love people. Sadly, because they are large and they like to bark, not everyone reacts positively towards them.
In one direction there is a neighbor who has outright stated he will kill them next time he sees them.  On the other side, another neighbor who admitted he hates dogs, and  regularly shoots into the woods very close to our pasture.  As you imagine, we feel very unsafe.
We need help.  We need a good, strong fence that will keep predators out, and our dogs in. Welded wire has failed. Chain link has failed. Radio shock collars have failed. Our only option is a much more expensive, privacy style "wall" fence. 
We can no longer "make do" with our current fencing, and  we are running out of time. At any moment any of our dogs could come to harm. 
Our goal is to raise enough money to "wall in" the entire property in a way that the dogs can't compromise. It's a large goal, because this type of fencing tends to be prohibitively expensive. 
Every bit that we raise will go towards securing a safe environment for our animals.
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Update 9
Posted by Paul Karasz
17 months ago
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A sincere thank you to all of our supporters. While we were nowhere near our goal, your contributions have enabled us to make a major step towards safety for our farm dogs. We focused on a small piece of the property and installed new "no-climb" fence. We are adding solid features along the bottom of the fence to make digging out difficult, and then we will attempt to secure a second roll of fence above the existing layer to double the height so that it cannot be jumped.
That's a happy dog!
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Update 8
Posted by Paul Karasz
18 months ago
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Paul has been hard at work putting in posts and gates and stringing new fence lines. For now it's going to be a tight area since we haven't reached the funding level necessary to do much more. Still, it's a start. It will get one dog off the chain, and it will allow Lucy and Cini to go out off leash.
As far as Sabine goes, unless we can train her to stay WITH the sheep, she will have to stay on chain for awhile longer.
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Update 7
Posted by Paul Karasz
18 months ago
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Just scheduled a check-up and neutering for Orzo. We are hoping that 1: his hormone-driven need to wander will be curbed a bit, and 2: he'll put on some weight post-snip and be less able to clear the fence top.
Still working on our fence options and waiting on an estimate.
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Update 6
Posted by Paul Karasz
18 months ago
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Orzo and Wembley in the garage. Wembley is a Border Leicester lamb that hangs out close to the house and follows us like a little puppy. Orzo keeps an eye on to make sure she stays safe.
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Howard Nicky Taylor-Moody
18 months ago
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Check into 8' elk fence with 3 strands of hotwire lining the inside. Rub bacon grease on the wire, or small strips of bacon, so they get a really good shock. That should contain them. It fixed our issue, and it hasn't cost us $75,000 to do it. Keep a lookout for 2nd hand elk fence, buy 12' posts. Make sure your fencer is well grounded and capable of giving a good shock. If they continue to try to dig out you can place dig guards. We didn't need them once we got the fencer working properly and did the bacon trick...The dig guards can be made installed using various methods and materials. One of the simplest dig guards to install is by using non climbable fencing or another stiff type of fencing and placing 3 to 4 ft of this wire on the ground. The ground fencing is then attached to the vertical fencing by either using hog rings (available through Phoenix Fence) or weaving tension wire through both fences essentially stitching the two fencing materials together.

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Anne Borden
18 months ago

Perhaps it's time to get in touch with a professional trainer. Your wonderful dogs could probably learn the boundaries as limits to their responsibility.

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Amy Karasz
18 months ago

Right Dina? I wish I could put a super high, fluorescent orange concrete wall on the border of our property with him!

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Dina Fullerton
18 months ago

Not to mention you have children to protect from your idiot neighbor's firing in your direction! The whole situation is scary and infuriating. I wish your county would do more to help you. Since they allow neighbors to shoot in your direction, they should make them help pay for your wall. I know, wishful thinking!

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Amy Karasz
18 months ago

Hi!!! Great suggestion! How many feet of fencing did you put up that way? We need 2,179 feet of it, plus gates. Everything we've seen on line gives us a cost per foot that puts us way up toward the $100k mark.

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$1,370 of $75k goal

Raised by 29 people in 18 months
Created September 16, 2015
Amy Karasz  
JP
$100
Joanne Perry
18 months ago(Offline Donation)
$20
Amber Reddinger
18 months ago
JB
$25
Jeannie Bloch
18 months ago
$50
Anonymous
18 months ago
NP
$25
Nancy Pope
18 months ago
$50
Lyn Carriveau
18 months ago
AB
$50
Amy Ballenger
18 months ago

Sorry that it's come to this. Got to protect the fur babies.

JS
$50
Jessie Stowell
18 months ago

From our family to yours. We love you guys!

$50
Anonymous
18 months ago
$100
Anonymous
18 months ago
Howard Nicky Taylor-Moody
18 months ago
1
1

Check into 8' elk fence with 3 strands of hotwire lining the inside. Rub bacon grease on the wire, or small strips of bacon, so they get a really good shock. That should contain them. It fixed our issue, and it hasn't cost us $75,000 to do it. Keep a lookout for 2nd hand elk fence, buy 12' posts. Make sure your fencer is well grounded and capable of giving a good shock. If they continue to try to dig out you can place dig guards. We didn't need them once we got the fencer working properly and did the bacon trick...The dig guards can be made installed using various methods and materials. One of the simplest dig guards to install is by using non climbable fencing or another stiff type of fencing and placing 3 to 4 ft of this wire on the ground. The ground fencing is then attached to the vertical fencing by either using hog rings (available through Phoenix Fence) or weaving tension wire through both fences essentially stitching the two fencing materials together.

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Anne Borden
18 months ago

Perhaps it's time to get in touch with a professional trainer. Your wonderful dogs could probably learn the boundaries as limits to their responsibility.

+ Read More
Amy Karasz
18 months ago

Right Dina? I wish I could put a super high, fluorescent orange concrete wall on the border of our property with him!

+ Read More
Dina Fullerton
18 months ago

Not to mention you have children to protect from your idiot neighbor's firing in your direction! The whole situation is scary and infuriating. I wish your county would do more to help you. Since they allow neighbors to shoot in your direction, they should make them help pay for your wall. I know, wishful thinking!

+ Read More
Amy Karasz
18 months ago

Hi!!! Great suggestion! How many feet of fencing did you put up that way? We need 2,179 feet of it, plus gates. Everything we've seen on line gives us a cost per foot that puts us way up toward the $100k mark.

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