Justice for OKCvictims #MeTooGuru

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Raised by 60 people in 18 months
OKCinfo was launched at the end of 2015 as a desperate last minute intervention into a existing trial launched by the Belgian State against the OKC cult nearly 20 years before.
The 23 of us -supported by another 40+ youngsters ex-OKC born kids- have been since backed by talented lawyers ready to defend our case.

The initiative is born out of the realization that if we, children of the first, second and third generation were not going to talk, the cult leader and the clique around him would manipulate the trial and the court to establish there is no victims, there is no complaints, it’s not a cult but a “Tibetan Buddhist inspired community” persecuted by the Belgian State.

How we will use the funds

Pay our lawyers
Pay medical expenses (mainly psychological support)
Pay transportation costs for civil parties living abroad
Pay the communication costs of the OKCinfo initiative

Any surplus will be donated to organisations fighting against sectarian drifts and sexual abuses

more information on www.okcinfo.news

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OKCinfo a été lancé fin 2015 en tant que tentative désespérée de dernière minute dans un procès existant lancé par l'Etat belge contre la secte OKC près de 20 ans auparavant.
Les 23 d'entre nous - soutenus par plus de 40 autres jeunes ex-enfants nés de l'OKC - ont depuis lors été soutenus par des avocats talentueux prêts à défendre notre cause.

L'initiative est née de la prise de conscience que si nous, enfants de la première, deuxième et troisième génération, n'allions pas parler, le gourou de secte et la clique autour de lui manipuleraient le procès et le tribunal pour établir qu'il n'y a pas de victimes, pas de plaintes, que ce n'est pas une secte mais une "communauté d'inspiration bouddhiste tibétaine" persécutée par l'Etat belge.

Comment nous utiliserons les fonds

Payer nos avocats
Payer les frais médicaux (soutien psychologique principalement)
Payer les frais de transports des parties civiles vivant à l'étranger
Payer les frais de communication de l'initiative OKCinfo
Tout surplus sera reversé à des organisations qui se battent contre les dérives sectaires et les abus sexuels.

plus d'info sur http://www.okcinfo.news

We're working on the story to launch our crowdfunding to allow ouserlves (OKCinfo civil parties) to pay for our lawyers. 

must read :
2017 :Testimony from an Ogyen Kunzang Choling survivor. 
Abuse and Buddhism - Behind the Smiling Facade .

2016 verdict: 4 years suspended sentence .

the 2016 crowdfunding page is here 
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Contrary to what OKC is spreading around since 2018, OKC still have links to Lama Kunzang aka predator Robert Spatz and by the way they just lost the counter appeal against the civil parties & the Belgian State, we're not done yet. Until Justice prevail !

Read how Secretary General Rui Oliveira from OKC (the men that presided the organisation during all the period of the abuses (30+ years) and hasn't resigned and still act as the main link between the organisation, lawyers and Robert Spatz is lobbying legitimate Buddhist centers and Tibetan-like newspapers to distilate his propaganda. http://www.tibetanreview.net/centre-denies-links-with-alleged-sexual-abuse-lama/

This is how the "association" is concerned : Rui knew about the abuse at least since early 2000's and did nothing to stop them or denounce the abuse his "root-guru" was still perpetrating. Rui lied to all members of OKC at least by not informing them for more than 20 years about the very serious allegations Spatz and OKC were accused of : basically the cotnent of the whole trial. How ? the legal status of the "association" were written in a way that would legally allow the "association" to NOT inform their members about the content of any judicial affairs.

Meaning : OKC mainly lead by Rui Oliveira, by not informing their members, Rui was actively serving the private interests of a predator multiple times accused of sexual abuses, spoliation and generally allowing and putting in place an horendous policy of child-parents separations from the early 80's up to the police raid of 1997.

This is the same Rui Oliveira that conduct prayers in the Brussels Temple, the same Rui Oliveira that enacted the obligation still in place in August 2017 of displaying Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang next to legitimate Buddhist statues & relics in Nyima-Dzong.

The same Rui Oliveira that lobbiyed discretely the Belgian Buddhist Union to consider OKC as legitimate Buddhist cernter until UBB broke rank and denounced openly the "center" in a press release., the same men that visit other legitimate Buddhist center and try to dissociate OKC from a sexual abuse predator still in trial after 20+ years to try to salvage a toxic association he lead & co-created while getting lawyer instructions from the same contingent of denfence used & paid by current adepts part of OKC.

Until OKC members resign Rui Oliveira & "Cabe" from their rank, OKC will keep and stay being indistinguishable from Spatz. Nobody is being fooled here and if some Tibetan magazine or newspaper are, we are here to keep them informed about the background of each of the responsible & co-responsible of this sectarian drift.

To Rui : feel free to remove search results from Google, feel free to write as much letters to the editors as you need, feel free to fill complaints against public media broadcasters like RTBF, we live in a free society and our truth will broke your veil of manipulation and lies. one way or the other.

You can manipulate cult members but you can't manipulate everyone. that time is over.

See you in court soon.

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Just a little update to inform all of you that donated to our crowdfunding about the current situation :

We won the counter-appeal against OKC & Spatz

The court verdict is that none of the arguments of defense used by the cult lawyers are valid or justify the previous court decision to inv.alidate the whole trial.

It is a huge victory for us because now it's like 90% of the cult arguments (technical points, nothing on the core of the crimes commited) are now rendered useless. OKC won't be able to reuse them anymore.

Perhaps they will finally address the core of the issues ? the sexual abuses, the mistreatments of childrens ? the many inheritances stollen from members ? the countless sums of money diverted and sent to Spain or Portugal by car ?

The next step will be happening in the court of Liège, it will be a bit more complicated for all of us in Brussels to attend the sessions and even more for those living outside of Belgium & Europe.

Right now we don't know the costs that will come with this new step, we will probably need some more help to reach the end of this tunnel & perhaps turnover the whole trial in favor of the victims.

No matter where this goes, in many ways we won the battle at different levels, OKC will never be able to operate without a sticker on its face tainted by their actions in the last 40 years. Countless people in Brussels and elsewhere stopped using their organic shops or stopped using their "center" and the day the final verdict will come even more people will open their eyes.

There is a path to recovery for all of us, even the most blind, in denial will have no choice at some point in their lives to look in the mirror of their soul and contemplate what they allowed to happen and for some collaborated directly in this sectarian drift.

From our side, we're busy living Life, rebuilding our damaged selves into healthy functioning happier persons, we have kids growing and familly to craft and no doubt that the future is bright !

All of you receiving this email participated into making this happen in some capacity or another and for that we are eternally grateful !

See you on the bright side of life !

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A little update about the OKC-Spatz case status :

First of all, thank you all for all the donations, we couldn't make it without all of you no matter the amount, each and every donations allowed us to pay our lawyers and that was the base goal we had, even if we did not manage to reach our bigger long term goal of 30K instead we did reach the 5K and that was the bare minimum to pay our lawyers. Now things are not over, read below :


en Français : https://www.okcinfo.news/archives/2018/laffaire-de-la-secte-okc-sach%C3%A8ve-par-un-nouveau-fiasco

In one word :  Inadmissibility of proceedings !

Yes after 20 years of inquiry, instruction and many years lost in proceedings inside the judicial Belgian system. The main responsible of this situation is the Belgian State, the King prosecutor and the financial experts that 2 decades ago introduced technical vices that managed to render the whole case into dust.

When starting all of this in 2015 we knew there was a risk that all the new constitutions of civil parties would not stand against the law, we were late and our testimonies aggravated the whole case and the aggravations (new crimes) were not part of the instruction of the case.

We never imagined the whole case would crumble down, 90% due to the very actions of the Belgian State and Justice dept.

Of course we were in Shock. Maybe this is why you all are only getting an update 2 weeks after this horrible day.
We needed to recover from a 2 years effort that resulted in almost nothing tangible for the victims.

Yes the cult is more or less destroyed in reputation, credibility, legitimacy but this is not enough. All of the survivors of sexual abuse will have to endure this non-recognition of sexual abuses for the rest of their life and this is clearly un-acceptable.

So this is not over, we are not going to abandon this now that we marched all this distance and we will not surrender to the enormous amount of power and money Spatz & OKC benefit to defend themselves using facebook comments and technical vices.

Without ever, ever replying or debating on the substance of the case. The predator Robert Spatz is still free with very high chances to still being abusing at least one or possibly two girls (now adults) that he attracted to his inner circle in late 2000's for one of them and late 2015 for the second one.

We cannot let this go un-checked and we cannot let RS simply go by his life without facing his responsibilities and this ultimately is also valid for the clique around RS: his lieutenants, his left and right arms and the people close to him.

So we are planning to not only appeal the appeal verdict at the high court but we will also open new cases in other countries.

We are still working on these aspects and will provide more information as soon as possible.

ps: Ricardo went to see the Dalai-Lama and had the opportunity to briefly talk about OKC to the DL. There is a meeting in November were Tibetan Buddhist teachers will have a serious talk about sexual abuses in Western Buddhist centers.

if you understand French, make sure to see the last TV appearance of Ricardo and Sophie speaking about their life inside OKC, it's on the front page of our website : https://www.okcinfo.news
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Thank you all for the donations, we finally reached the level where we can pay for our lawyers . The Judgement is just in a few days, any money (if any) remaining after paying the judicial fees will be used to reimburse plane tickets of civil parties living abroad currently handling this cost on their own while on already difficult financial personal situations.

We would like to thank each and everyone of you that allowed this crowdfunding to succeed and everyone else that shared our link throwing some more light on this case.
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