Justice for OKCvictims #MeTooGuru

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OKCinfo was launched at the end of 2015 as a desperate last minute intervention into a existing trial launched by the Belgian State against the OKC cult nearly 20 years before.
The 23 of us -supported by another 40+ youngsters ex-OKC born kids- have been since backed by talented lawyers ready to defend our case.

The initiative is born out of the realization that if we, children of the first, second and third generation were not going to talk, the cult leader and the clique around him would manipulate the trial and the court to establish there is no victims, there is no complaints, it’s not a cult but a “Tibetan Buddhist inspired community” persecuted by the Belgian State.

How we will use the funds

Pay our lawyers
Pay medical expenses (mainly psychological support)
Pay transportation costs for civil parties living abroad
Pay the communication costs of the OKCinfo initiative

Any surplus will be donated to organisations fighting against sectarian drifts and sexual abuses

more information on www.okcinfo.news

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OKCinfo a été lancé fin 2015 en tant que tentative désespérée de dernière minute dans un procès existant lancé par l'Etat belge contre la secte OKC près de 20 ans auparavant.
Les 23 d'entre nous - soutenus par plus de 40 autres jeunes ex-enfants nés de l'OKC - ont depuis lors été soutenus par des avocats talentueux prêts à défendre notre cause.

L'initiative est née de la prise de conscience que si nous, enfants de la première, deuxième et troisième génération, n'allions pas parler, le gourou de secte et la clique autour de lui manipuleraient le procès et le tribunal pour établir qu'il n'y a pas de victimes, pas de plaintes, que ce n'est pas une secte mais une "communauté d'inspiration bouddhiste tibétaine" persécutée par l'Etat belge.

Comment nous utiliserons les fonds

Payer nos avocats
Payer les frais médicaux (soutien psychologique principalement)
Payer les frais de transports des parties civiles vivant à l'étranger
Payer les frais de communication de l'initiative OKCinfo
Tout surplus sera reversé à des organisations qui se battent contre les dérives sectaires et les abus sexuels.

plus d'info sur http://www.okcinfo.news

We're working on the story to launch our crowdfunding to allow ouserlves (OKCinfo civil parties) to pay for our lawyers. 

must read :
2017 :Testimony from an Ogyen Kunzang Choling survivor. 
Abuse and Buddhism - Behind the Smiling Facade .

2016 verdict: 4 years suspended sentence .

the 2016 crowdfunding page is here 
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A little update about the OKC-Spatz case status :

First of all, thank you all for all the donations, we couldn't make it without all of you no matter the amount, each and every donations allowed us to pay our lawyers and that was the base goal we had, even if we did not manage to reach our bigger long term goal of 30K instead we did reach the 5K and that was the bare minimum to pay our lawyers. Now things are not over, read below :


en Français : https://www.okcinfo.news/archives/2018/laffaire-de-la-secte-okc-sach%C3%A8ve-par-un-nouveau-fiasco

In one word :  Inadmissibility of proceedings !

Yes after 20 years of inquiry, instruction and many years lost in proceedings inside the judicial Belgian system. The main responsible of this situation is the Belgian State, the King prosecutor and the financial experts that 2 decades ago introduced technical vices that managed to render the whole case into dust.

When starting all of this in 2015 we knew there was a risk that all the new constitutions of civil parties would not stand against the law, we were late and our testimonies aggravated the whole case and the aggravations (new crimes) were not part of the instruction of the case.

We never imagined the whole case would crumble down, 90% due to the very actions of the Belgian State and Justice dept.

Of course we were in Shock. Maybe this is why you all are only getting an update 2 weeks after this horrible day.
We needed to recover from a 2 years effort that resulted in almost nothing tangible for the victims.

Yes the cult is more or less destroyed in reputation, credibility, legitimacy but this is not enough. All of the survivors of sexual abuse will have to endure this non-recognition of sexual abuses for the rest of their life and this is clearly un-acceptable.

So this is not over, we are not going to abandon this now that we marched all this distance and we will not surrender to the enormous amount of power and money Spatz & OKC benefit to defend themselves using facebook comments and technical vices.

Without ever, ever replying or debating on the substance of the case. The predator Robert Spatz is still free with very high chances to still being abusing at least one or possibly two girls (now adults) that he attracted to his inner circle in late 2000's for one of them and late 2015 for the second one.

We cannot let this go un-checked and we cannot let RS simply go by his life without facing his responsibilities and this ultimately is also valid for the clique around RS: his lieutenants, his left and right arms and the people close to him.

So we are planning to not only appeal the appeal verdict at the high court but we will also open new cases in other countries.

We are still working on these aspects and will provide more information as soon as possible.

ps: Ricardo went to see the Dalai-Lama and had the opportunity to briefly talk about OKC to the DL. There is a meeting in November were Tibetan Buddhist teachers will have a serious talk about sexual abuses in Western Buddhist centers.

if you understand French, make sure to see the last TV appearance of Ricardo and Sophie speaking about their life inside OKC, it's on the front page of our website : https://www.okcinfo.news
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Thank you all for the donations, we finally reached the level where we can pay for our lawyers . The Judgement is just in a few days, any money (if any) remaining after paying the judicial fees will be used to reimburse plane tickets of civil parties living abroad currently handling this cost on their own while on already difficult financial personal situations.

We would like to thank each and everyone of you that allowed this crowdfunding to succeed and everyone else that shared our link throwing some more light on this case.
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Thanks to all your donations both offline and online, we now reached 4.538€ we still have to top-up with 2000€ to reach the first step of being able to pay the lawyers.

if you can share this campaign via email, social media or word of mouth please Know that each of these little things help us tremendously reach our general goal.

The Judgement day is approaching soon, many people from different countries will join and be present to the final of this 20 year long trial, the date is 18th of September, Justice Palace of Brussels.
Check our out facebook event via the OKCinfo page to make sure to get the latest updates.

For many of us this is the end of a journey that started in 2016 with the first trial where OKC-Spatz got themselves a nice 4 year suspended sentence that they appealed 10 days after the sentence resulting in an appeal court trial in 2018.

if there was one image representative enough to speak about the appeal is : Facebook comments & images where the only arguments beside openly lying under oath to counter our arguments and our multi faceted but converging stories depicting the reality inside OKC. the cult could not do better than what they did to serve our objective : most of the testimonies from cult insiders to counter our arguments displayed either lies, cult conditioning, severe lack of discernment, absurd perjury and the use of Tibetan Buddhist figures to justify the legitimacy of their so called Buddhist center.

We hope the Belgian Justice will be able to cut through the bullshit and see OKC and Spatz and the 7 direct accomplice as what they are : criminals that need to face their actions and their utter lack of integrity.

History will always remember the version of the survivors and we'll make sure it stays that way for eons to come: Ogyen Kunzang Choling is dead, Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang is just a shadow of psychopathy maintained alive by his utter fear of death and his belief that death is so important moment of life where one's actions are scrutinized, felt and seen by oneself and that on that moment, every pain, every abuse, every torture will be felt thousands of times stronger and for eternity.

That's what await the circle of jerks around RS and that's what await RS/LK and that's what they will get.

Karma is a bitch they say, Human Justice may be flawed (flaws used and abused by OKC to last this trial for 20 years is one of their feats certainly) but in the end, even before the judgement day, we already won, we spoke up, we united to fight the only battle worth battling for : ourselves and that along with handling our lives and healing is the best way to celebrate winning with or without a matching human justice system sentence.

May the Light always be !

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Thanks to all the donations, if you want to help more make sure to support our "thunderclap" campaign to boost the crowdfunding by lending your social media profile (once) to amplify our voices : https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/70050-justice-for-okc-cult-survivors
Visit www.okcinfo.news/en for English
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