Action for Expat Votes
This legal action is on behalf of 13 representative British citizens including Harry Shindler, a 93 year old veteran of WW2. Our lawyer has said "We will defend one of the last veterans of the second world war who did not agree to vote for the loss of his future European citizenship when he risked his life for Europe's freedom."
Breaking News: The case will be heard by the General Court of the EU in Luxembourg on 5th July, before a panel of 5 judges. It could be momentous.
THE FUNDING FOR STAGE ONE OF THE CASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
PLEASE DO NOT DONATE FURTHER FUNDS HERE.
THE STAGE TWO FUNDING FOR THE CASE, WHERE YOUR DONATION WILL BE WELCOME IS NOW VIA CROWDJUSTICE HERE .
Any donations made to the original GoFundMe site will of course be transferred to the new fund.
A BIG THANK YOU FROM ACTION FOR EXPAT VOTES FOR YOUR SUPPORT
For details and further donations please do NOT donate further to the GofundMe site which was used to kickstart the action. Funding for the big case is now being carried out through CrowdJustice HERE: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/action-for-expat-votes/
Donations to the Crowdjustice site will be welcomed!
Thank you from Richard Bird and the AFEV team.
To all donors: The case will be heard on 5th July by the EU court in Luxembourg and the estimated legal costs are £45,000. The best vehicle for this is now CrowdJustice and we have set up a new funding for this stage which launches at 12 noon today, 8 June.
This is the link, which will be live from 12 noon:
Please then share like hot cross buns! You donated to the first stage, we urge you to donate to this second crucial stage.
Please don't donate to the old GoFundMe site. Donations there will of course be transferred into the new CrowdJustice fund but we will lose 8% commission!
Battling on. Richard Bird and the AFEV team.
We will update with further news as soon as possible!
This is not just about losing UK voting rights at what is a very crucial time in UK history. It is also about UK expats not naving the right to vote anywhere else in Europe either, without taking on another country's nationality. Surely the principles of universal suffrage mean that we all have the right to vote somewhere?
I'm a Brit who has lived in the EU for over 15 years. I am angry that I did not get a vote in the Brexit referendum. My residence, employment, health, social and pension rights are at risk. I am married to a European who will lose rights in the UK. The rights of my children and their spouses are also at risk. This vote has taken away constitutional rights and we the people that had the most to lose had no say. We need to fight against this decision.
I am disappointed by the EU council response. I thought from EU comments that the EU were keen that the UK should not leave the EU. Their ‘paradoxical’ response indicates indifference or resignation. As a previos donor on a much reduced UK pension (thanks to brexit) I don’t feel encouraged to throw more much needed money down the same black hold
Although the EUCJ may not be able to say who votes in a UK addvisory referendum, I disagree that Article 50 notice has been validly given. There are two stages needed, firstly to make a decision in accordance with the national constitution Art 50(1), then give notice under Art 50(2). Both require an Act of Parliament. The only Act of parliament on the issue concerns who is authorised to give the Art 50 (2) notice. The UK prime minister is taking the referendum result as the decision needed under Art 50(1). That is wrong because that decision needs an Act of parliament too (Miller case). Conclusion - the Art 50 notice is invalid under UK law. The European Commission is under a duty to act in good faith, which means they cannot simply plough on with Brexit once they know that the Art 50 notice is invalid under national law. Added to this the unclear position of the UK in the negotiations, often contradicting what was argued in the run up to the referendum is a further indication that there is no real consensus, and hence no decision to leave the EU as would be required for Art 50(1).
Congrats on achieving your target of £7500. I'd like to highlight another point that should be addressed: the UK is one of the few countries that denies expats the right to vote in person in their embassies (rather than relying on a postal vote or proxy). I lived in France for 10 years and now live in the UAE, where I watched all my French colleagues happily vote in person in the French presidential election. Meanwhile I received my postal vote ballot far too late from Lambeth Council and my husband still hasn't received his. Finding a proxy in the last place we happened to live in the UK before moving abroad 11 years ago is not easy either. Why can't we nominate a proxy anywhere in the UK? Asking busy relatives or friends to cross London to vote at several different polling stations is unreasonable. We should demand the same rights as other expats. The UK should not make it so difficult for us to vote.
The Netherlands government's appeal against the lower court ruling in the Amsterdam case gives what may well be some interesting clarification on what the EU Council are referring to when they say a definitive decision has not yet been made. The appeal document says that a definitive decision hasn't yet been made because the exit treaty has not yet been agreed. Of course from a UK perspective a definitive decision hasn't been made because only the UK Parliament can do that through primary legislation and Parliament isn't in a position to do that until it knows what the consequences of such a decision will be - see the Three Knight's Opinion for further details.
Here is the Hansard report on the 2nd reading of this Private Member's Bill. It is good to see it pass to committee stage but there is much work to do in a. persuading MPs to support the bill and b. address the areas where it falls far short of the Tories' mainifesto promises. https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-23/debates/9F6393F6-339C-4813-8C24-BDC41623DF10/OverseasElectorsBill#contribution-5512D079-BB3C-4AE1-A20A-96B8C320E14D
MY LETTER to THE EUROPEAN COURT OF JUSTICE: Subject: "Petition to retain my EU citizenship. 10s of millions of British EU citizens were barred from voting in the Brexit referendum. Read more ... https://www.facebook.com/tommy.barlow.52/posts/10211590778660201
One of the things that would help the wider campaign on protecting citizenship rights and parliamentary democracy is sharing information on the claims and the responses. The responce from the EU Council to this submission is potentially very significant for various other groups. The CJEU apparently doesn't make public the pleadings and responses so as not to disturb the "serenity of the court". Nevertheless sharing information via the CoHub would help other groups.
I'm a EU citizen who has lived in the UK for over 20 years. I am angry that I did not get a vote in the Brexit referendum. Our residence, our pension and taxes contributed over 20 years, employment, health, social and pension rights are at risk. I am married to another European and we can lose our rights in the UK. The rights of my children and their spouses are also at risk. This vote has taken away constitutional rights and we the people that had the most to lose had no say. We need to fight against this decision. It was discriminatory (as per the ECJ article 14) for both the EU and the UK to agree to discriminate 3.000.000 voters who moved to the UK within a legal framework which is now disappearing beneath their feet. We were the ones who could lose the most, and we were denied our democratic right to vote allowing others to decide our future. It is the equivalent of putting the EU citizens in the middle of the Roman Coliseum while the spectators choose to put thumbs up or down. Do we have a common ground with the expats? I think the EU should be challenged legally for agreeing discrimination of their own citizens.
As an Expat Brit I can't see how the Brexit vote was even considered legal, basically anything between 3 and 4 million Expats were not allowed to vote in something that directly affects their futures, that is not Democracy in any sense of the word, this mess should be subject to a re-vote so our votes can be counted. If the Brit govt won't rectify this miscarriage of justice then the EUCJ should, 3-4 million Expats would like to vote on something that directly affects our future thanks.
Unfortunately the Overseas Electors Bill to be debated on 23rd Feb isn't a government bill. It is a Private Member's Bill sponsored by Glyn Davies.If it gets a second reading and passed to the HoL it has the potential to correct some of the wrongs of the 15 year limit on democracy. However, it does fall short of what the Tories promised, full voting rights for all British Nationals. There is more information on Glyn Davies's blog http://glyn-davies.blogspot.fr/2018/01/overseas-electors-bill.html